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Frequently Asked Questions about Buying a Car

What’s the best time of the month to shop for a car?
Keep in mind that prices such as MSRP, invoice and dealer cost do not vary from day to day. When buying a vehicle the only two things that can change, the first is the willingness of the dealer to sell at a lower price to meet quotas and the second is if the manufacturers increase the money available in rebates or dealer money. One of the more recent trends we have observed is that at mid-month the manufacturers tend to have increased rebates, bonus money and dealer money. So if you are working on averages and percentages, the best time to buy a car tends to be from the 16th to the 31st of any given month.

What time of year is the best to buy a vehicle?
With new vehicles, the time the car manufacturers give the highest rebates and dealer money is normally around the spring auto show (March or April) or at the end of the model year (August or September). The only drawback to buying in August or September is that you might not have good selection on the vehicle you’re looking for because it is so late in the year. Keep in mind that sales of used cars and new cars can vary due to the economy, the market, and even the weather.

Should I trade my car to the dealer?
In almost every situation, if you sell your vehicle yourself you will increase the money you put in your pocket by $1,000 to 2,000, or more. If you do not mind putting on your sales hat or wheeling and dealing with potential customers who are looking at your vehicle, it will save you money.

How can I get the best value for my trade?
The value of your trade will be determined by what your type of vehicle is being sold for at local auctions. You can get book values from the Credit Union but most of the time your real cash value will lower that what the books and the inter-net values are showing. The best way to get a good value is to keep the trade price separate from the sale price of the new vehicle and compare the taxable sale amount among at least three dealers.

Example New Car MSRP Price        $30,500.00
Less
Trade in Value                              $7,200.00
Taxable sale Amount =                 $23,300.00

Remember you are looking for the lowest taxable amount, not just the highest trade value.

What models of cars best hold their value?
This is an important factor when purchasing a vehicle. Most Japanese imports like Honda, Toyota, and their high-end counterparts like Acura and Lexus do very well. The Chevy and GMC SUV’s and pickups have also performed very well. Because there are so many makes and models, each vehicle should be researched.

Should I buy an extended warranty?
The short answer….it depends on your driving habits and the reliability history of the vehicle you have
chosen. If you have a tendency to keep a vehicle for a long time and drive from 80,000 to 100,000 miles, it can be a good investment. Most warranties will run between $1,200 to $1,400 with most terms running 5 to 7 years and up to 125,000 miles. The Credit Union partners with CUNA Mutual to provide this service to our members. Click here for more information.

Should I Lease or Buy?
In most situations you will be better off buying than leasing. When you lease, they generally do not tell you about the up-front acquisition fee of $500 to $600. This is a fancy and somewhat deceptive name for profit. At the end of the lease, they will typically charge you a disposition fee of approximately $300. In addition, they charge you interest for the lease term on both the selling price, known as the cap cost, and the end value, known as the residual value. In short that means that if you lease a $35,000 vehicle with an end value of $21,000, you pay interest on $56,000 for the term of your lease.

Should I take 0% financing or the Rebate?
Most of the time you are better off taking the rebate offered by the vehicle manufacturers, and financing the difference through your Credit Union.

  • If you take the 0% financing you will typically forego a rebate of $3,000 or more. You will also be taxed on that amount so you will finance a principle amount of $3,195.00 more than if you had taken the rebate.
  • Many people pay their vehicles off early. If you generally do that, you will lose the advantage of 0% financing because the payoff balance of your loan will be higher than if you had taken the rebate.
  • If your vehicle is totaled in an accident, you will be at a disadvantage due to having a higher payoff balance for your loan.
  • Dealers are paid a flat fee of approximately $300 to $400 to get the customer to take the 0% financing even when it is not in the best interest of the customer.
  • The best way to make this decision is to calculate it for your exact situation.

How should I negotiate?
There are several rules you want to use:

  1. Do Not Buy On Your First Visit
    Sales people are trained to sell you a car today – they are told if you don’t buy now they will not see you again. Be strong and clear with them that the only way you are going home in a vehicle today is if they give it to you for FREE.
  2. Do Not Buy On Emotion
    Keep in mind that a willingness to walk away and to be indifferent gives you a position of power. Don’t fall for the old lines of “this is the last one we have” or the “price is only good today” or “wow, you look great in that car!” There are always cars and sales on any given day. Prices such as the MSRP, invoice and dealer cost don’t vary from day to day. The only thing that can change is the rebates or dealer money that comes from the manufacturer. When a manufacturer ends one program they will typically start another program that is as good or better. Buying on the spur of the moment, with emotions, instead of reason and logic, can cost you thousands of dollars down the road.
  3. Do Not Give the Dealer Checks, Cash, or Visa Card Numbers
    Only give them a deposit once you are satisfied you have gotten the lowest price possible on the vehicle you are purchasing and the highest price on your trade. Then and only then are you ready to buy and take delivery.
  4. Do Not Be Rushed, Pushed, or Pressured
    Remember the golden rule – treat others the way you want to be treated. If they won’t honor your boundaries, don’t do business with them. Remember they are trying to earn your business. Find someone who will treat you with respect.
  5. Do Not Sign Credit Forms or Buyers Orders Before a Final Deal
    People can unwittingly sign credit forms and buyers orders that when coupled together, approved and sent in can legally mean that you own the vehicle.
  6. Do Your Research
    Make sure you know what you want. Do your research on the MSRP and the invoice price of the new vehicle you are looking for. Find out about resale value, reliability and the cost of insurance. Knowledge is power and it may keep you from wasting time on a vehicle you don’t want.
  7. Keep The Sale Price Separate From The Trade Value
    Keep the sale price of the new vehicle separate from the value of the trade until the end of the negotiations. The dealer should then subtract the trade in price from the sale price of the new vehicle to give you a bottom line price. This is typically called the taxable amount. This way you will be able to compare taxable amounts when you are shopping between dealerships.

Glossary of terms
Here are some frequently used terms you may need to know.

MSRP is the Manufacturer’s Suggested Retail Price.

Window Sticker is the same as MSRP.

Trade in Value is the dollar amount your trade is worth.

Taxable difference or taxable amount is the difference between the sale price of the vehicle you are
buying and car you are trading in.

RTB means “rebate to dealer”

After Market Options refer to the equipment or chemicals added to the vehicle after it got to the dealer.

Rebates or bonus money are monies given back to the customer from the manufacturer.

Dealer money is “hidden” money that is available to reduce the net price of the vehicle. It is given directly
to the dealer from the manufacturer.

Dealer Sticker Price is usually a supplemental sticker added by the dealer to include either ADM
(additional dealer mark-up), ADP (additional dealer profit), or high-priced, low-cost after market items
such as rust-proofing. It is meant to boost the MSRP and allow the dealer to make additional profits.


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